Whats the deal with selling un-ID'd runes? - Guild Wars Forums

Carinae · Jul 05, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Why are people selling unidentified Major/Superior runes?

I don't get it. for example, I have seen un-id'd Superior Necro runes being sold for 7K!!! But all four possible runes are available at the trader for way less.

What's the deal?

Tetris L · Jul 05, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39

If you BUY the rune at rune trager you don't get it unlocked for PVP. Only if you identify it.

salatious · Jul 05, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Why are people selling unidentified Major/Superior runes?

I don't get it. for example, I have seen un-id'd Superior Necro runes being sold for 7K!!! But all four possible runes are available at the trader for way less.

What's the deal?

there just lazy and have money to waste on these things... UInlocking runes is much easier using yoru Fasion points that you earn in PvP fights

Ensign · Jul 05, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

People are buying them for the unlock. If you still need several runes from a given class it's a pretty good deal, particularly for PvP players who have sigils to spare and little to spend money on.

Peace,
-CxE

Acheus Lokine · Jul 05, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by salatious

there just lazy and have money to waste on these things... UInlocking runes is much easier using yoru Fasion points that you earn in PvP fights

Not really. I'd rather save my faction points for unlocking the higher level runes, and get the lower level runes by identifying them.

Carinae · Jul 05, 2005, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Ok, now I feel stoopit, but please explain for me:

If I have an un-id'd superior necro rune, and I buy it from the trader, I can't use it in PvP?

What gets unlocked? It's a rune! It gives a 1, 2, or 3 bonus to one of your spell classes.

Are you saying a random upgrade item will unlock (and appear in your inventory) when the rune is ID'd?

This is about PvP ONLY characters isn't it? I play both PvE and PvP and have no idea what this is about. Sorry for being lame.

MSecorsky · Jul 05, 2005, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I'm as slack-jawed as Carinae on this... can a PvE char with runes adorning his armor go PvP or not, or does this unlocking thing refer to characters generated specifically for PvP?

Algren Cole · Jul 05, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Ok, now I feel stoopit, but please explain for me:

If I have an un-id'd superior necro rune, and I buy it from the trader, I can't use it in PvP?

What gets unlocked? It's a rune! It gives a 1, 2, or 3 bonus to one of your spell classes.

Are you saying a random upgrade item will unlock (and appear in your inventory) when the rune is ID'd?

This is about PvP ONLY characters isn't it? I play both PvE and PvP and have no idea what this is about. Sorry for being lame.

to use the rune in PvP you have to unlock it...when you ID it it says "new Item unlocked" then tells you the item. If you buy the rune from the trader it doesn't unlock the item..it just puts the item in your inventory.

Ketendra · Jul 05, 2005, 09:48 PM // 21:48

you have to remember that PvP and PvE are almost two entirely diffrent games (at least that is the way I see it, you are welcome to your own opinion)

Unlocking only matters for PvP if you only make PvE characters than unlocking doesnt do anything for you

There are two ways to unlock items
1)find or buy the rune and ID it. If you then salvage the armor that the rune that was in it you will have for your PvE character. (I assume that you can also put it on your PvP character but that is a waste of a rune in my opinion)

2)use factions points (which you get from PvPing) and buy the unlock. If you buy the unlock with the faction points that is all you are getting - the unlock, you are not getting the rune, so you can not use it for your PvE character.

IndyCC · Jul 05, 2005, 09:50 PM // 21:50

PvE characters can enter PvP arenas and eventually tombs and HoH. However people want to unlock runes because then at any given moment they can create a PvP only character that starts off at level 20 and can be equiped with any skills, runes, and weapon upgrades that your PvE character has unlocked. However, you can buy runes with your PvE character and go to PvP arenas. The problem with this lies really only in the arena you get to from Lions Arch (cant recall actual name) because chances are you are not level 20 at this point however PvP only characters can enter this arena that are level 20. Basically meaning you only see level 20's in this area.

MSecorsky · Jul 05, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

One of these days I'm going to try PvP so I can keep up.

Sigh...

Algren Cole · Jul 05, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

unlocking is specifically for PvP characters...if you're PvE characters has a rune that character can go PvP if you choose to and the rune will be used.

stumpy · Jul 05, 2005, 09:54 PM // 21:54

and to sum it up ... if you are a pve player who adorns his runes ... you can still use them on that character in pvp.

'unlocking' is for the people who need to constantly create and recreate 'pvp only' characters. Your pve player will still be just as effective, you just dont need the unlock as bad because you do not intend to change it over and over and over. If you ever create a pvp charcter you only have accesss to tghings you have unlocked.

Carinae · Jul 05, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00

OK, just to clarify:

I have a PvE character that I like to occasionally take to PvP. I BOUGHT a Superior Blood Rune from the trader.

The rune *appears* to work in PvP.

You are saying that I'm OK. It's the "PvP ONLY" characters that not only must buy a rune, but also unlock it....or id an un-id'd rune.

But PvE chars are free of this and not restricted???

Ketendra · Jul 05, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05

no matter how you get a rune onto your armor - it will work in PvP.

Unlocking - when you "unlock" a rune or weapon upgrade or whatever it is available for you to use on a PvP character. meaning when you make you PvP character it already comes all decked out in the highest level armor with whatever runes and upgrades you decided to put on it during character creation. You no longer need to look for one or buy one to use. As long as it is unlocked your PvP character can be created with it already on.

Algren Cole · Jul 05, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

OK, just to clarify:

I have a PvE character that I like to occasionally take to PvP. I BOUGHT a Superior Blood Rune from the trader.

The rune *appears* to work in PvP.

You are saying that I'm OK. It's the "PvP ONLY" characters that not only must buy a rune, but also unlock it....or id an un-id'd rune.

But PvE chars are free of this and not restricted???

for PvE you use what you're wearing in the arenas...but item unlocks are linked to the account and not the character. So PvPers can unlock an item once and use it for any PvP character they want.

IndyCC · Jul 05, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

OK, just to clarify:

I have a PvE character that I like to occasionally take to PvP. I BOUGHT a Superior Blood Rune from the trader.

The rune *appears* to work in PvP.

You are saying that I'm OK. It's the "PvP ONLY" characters that not only must buy a rune, but also unlock it....or id an un-id'd rune.

But PvE chars are free of this and not restricted???

You have multiple question parts here so I will answer them part by part.

First part of your question the rune you bought will work both in PvE and PvP on the character you bought it for. So the fact that it appears to work is because it does work, it also work in PvE.

However, to your second part, by buying the rune you did not unlock the rune to be used on PvP only characters. The only character that can use the rune is the one that bought it.

Part three, PvP characters can not buy runes they can only get the option to use runes they have unlocked with PvE characters. When they create the PvP only character you can apply runes to the armor you chose in a list of runes on the right panel which you have previously unlocked.

Here is an example I think that will clarify your confusion.
I run a W/Mo Storymode lvl 20
I run a E/N Storymode lvl 12
I run a R/Mo Storymode lvl 14
I run a R/ PvP mode lvl 20

My W/Mo is my primary character I play through the story, he sucks in PvP arenas so I dont even bother thinking about warriors pvp. My elementalist and ranger both seemed to do extremely well in the Shiverpeaks arena and they use Major runes. i decided that my ranger was best and wanted to try my ranger build in PvP only mode so that I could see what it would be like with 12 marksmanship, 12 beastmastery, and the rest in expertese. So I created the Ranger. I noticed however, that while my PvE ranger had major runes because she bought them, while in PvP only the best I could choose were minor runes because those were the only ones I have discovered in the PvE process.

Hope that clears up all confusion in this thread.

Carinae · Jul 05, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43

OK, that explains it nicely. Thank You.

IndyCC · Jul 05, 2005, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Ok now that you have that one under control let me get you into the next part. Hopefully this won't increase your confusion or tell you something you already know.

Now, as of last wednesday, Anet has introduced something called faction. This is a brand new way of unlocking skills, runes, and weapon upgrades for your pvp characters. To earn faction you simply must win in PvP matches. I have noticed a lot of people in PvP arenas ask what faction is. So for more information go here to read.

http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html

ICURADik · Jul 05, 2005, 11:52 PM // 23:52

You can buy runes form the rune trader for your PvP chars. They are all relatively cheap, except for the vigors, and a couple other high demand runes. Unless you remake like 2-3 times a day, it probably isnt worth the money to pay 10k or 1000 faction for an unlock. Unless those things come easily(you are very sucessful in PvP).

Jul 05, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37	#1
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Whats the deal with selling un-ID'd runes? Why are people selling unidentified Major/Superior runes? I don't get it. for example, I have seen un-id'd Superior Necro runes being sold for 7K!!! But all four possible runes are available at the trader for way less. What's the deal?

Jul 05, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#4
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	People are buying them for the unlock. If you still need several runes from a given class it's a pretty good deal, particularly for PvP players who have sigils to spare and little to spend money on. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Jul 05, 2005, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#9
Ketendra Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Guild: JackKnife Brigade Profession: E/Mo	you have to remember that PvP and PvE are almost two entirely diffrent games (at least that is the way I see it, you are welcome to your own opinion) Unlocking only matters for PvP if you only make PvE characters than unlocking doesnt do anything for you There are two ways to unlock items 1)find or buy the rune and ID it. If you then salvage the armor that the rune that was in it you will have for your PvE character. (I assume that you can also put it on your PvP character but that is a waste of a rune in my opinion) 2)use factions points (which you get from PvPing) and buy the unlock. If you buy the unlock with the faction points that is all you are getting - the unlock, you are not getting the rune, so you can not use it for your PvE character. Last edited by Ketendra; Jul 05, 2005 at 10:01 PM // 22:01.. Reason: grammer issues

Jul 05, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53	#12
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	unlocking is specifically for PvP characters...if you're PvE characters has a rune that character can go PvP if you choose to and the rune will be used. Last edited by Scaphism; Jul 06, 2005 at 06:08 AM // 06:08..

Jul 05, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39	#2
Tetris L Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Servants of Fortuna	If you BUY the rune at rune trager you don't get it unlocked for PVP. Only if you identify it.

Jul 05, 2005, 09:40 PM // 21:40	#6
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Ok, now I feel stoopit, but please explain for me: If I have an un-id'd superior necro rune, and I buy it from the trader, I can't use it in PvP? What gets unlocked? It's a rune! It gives a 1, 2, or 3 bonus to one of your spell classes. Are you saying a random upgrade item will unlock (and appear in your inventory) when the rune is ID'd? This is about PvP ONLY characters isn't it? I play both PvE and PvP and have no idea what this is about. Sorry for being lame.

Jul 05, 2005, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#7
MSecorsky Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Guild: The Sinister Vanguard Profession: Me/	I'm as slack-jawed as Carinae on this... can a PvE char with runes adorning his armor go PvP or not, or does this unlocking thing refer to characters generated specifically for PvP?

Jul 05, 2005, 09:50 PM // 21:50	#10
IndyCC Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Standing United (UNIT)	PvE characters can enter PvP arenas and eventually tombs and HoH. However people want to unlock runes because then at any given moment they can create a PvP only character that starts off at level 20 and can be equiped with any skills, runes, and weapon upgrades that your PvE character has unlocked. However, you can buy runes with your PvE character and go to PvP arenas. The problem with this lies really only in the arena you get to from Lions Arch (cant recall actual name) because chances are you are not level 20 at this point however PvP only characters can enter this arena that are level 20. Basically meaning you only see level 20's in this area.

Jul 05, 2005, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#13
stumpy Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canucklehead BC, Canada Guild: Advanced Necro Undead Society	and to sum it up ... if you are a pve player who adorns his runes ... you can still use them on that character in pvp. 'unlocking' is for the people who need to constantly create and recreate 'pvp only' characters. Your pve player will still be just as effective, you just dont need the unlock as bad because you do not intend to change it over and over and over. If you ever create a pvp charcter you only have accesss to tghings you have unlocked.

Jul 05, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#14
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	OK, just to clarify: I have a PvE character that I like to occasionally take to PvP. I BOUGHT a Superior Blood Rune from the trader. The rune appears to work in PvP. You are saying that I'm OK. It's the "PvP ONLY" characters that not only must buy a rune, but also unlock it....or id an un-id'd rune. But PvE chars are free of this and not restricted???

Jul 05, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#15
Ketendra Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Guild: JackKnife Brigade Profession: E/Mo	no matter how you get a rune onto your armor - it will work in PvP. Unlocking - when you "unlock" a rune or weapon upgrade or whatever it is available for you to use on a PvP character. meaning when you make you PvP character it already comes all decked out in the highest level armor with whatever runes and upgrades you decided to put on it during character creation. You no longer need to look for one or buy one to use. As long as it is unlocked your PvP character can be created with it already on.

Jul 05, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#18
Carinae Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Inside Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	OK, that explains it nicely. Thank You.

Jul 05, 2005, 10:51 PM // 22:51	#19
IndyCC Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Standing United (UNIT)	Ok now that you have that one under control let me get you into the next part. Hopefully this won't increase your confusion or tell you something you already know. Now, as of last wednesday, Anet has introduced something called faction. This is a brand new way of unlocking skills, runes, and weapon upgrades for your pvp characters. To earn faction you simply must win in PvP matches. I have noticed a lot of people in PvP arenas ask what faction is. So for more information go here to read. http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html

Jul 05, 2005, 11:52 PM // 23:52	#20
ICURADik Banned Join Date: May 2005	You can buy runes form the rune trader for your PvP chars. They are all relatively cheap, except for the vigors, and a couple other high demand runes. Unless you remake like 2-3 times a day, it probably isnt worth the money to pay 10k or 1000 faction for an unlock. Unless those things come easily(you are very sucessful in PvP).